Baylor Bears vs BYU Cougars is the kind of college football matchup that splits living rooms and group chats. Whenever these two meet, the records get thrown out and the only thing that matters is who walks away with the bragging rights.
Both programs call the Big 12 home, so this isn't just pride on the line — it's conference standing, head-to-head tiebreakers, and a direct say in who plays for a title. Every recruiting cycle, every transfer-portal swing, and every Saturday result feeds the same argument. When the Bears face the Cougars, the debate is never settled for long — last year's result just sets up next year's argument.
Below, Baylor Bears and BYU Cougars fans make their cases in real time. Stake your claim, drop your prediction, and talk your trash before kickoff.
Texas fans spent all offseason bragging about their 5-star haul and think they're back. Cool. They still can't win the Big 12 and they won't win the SEC either. All that recruiting hype and zero trophies to show for it. The most overrated program in the country and it's not close.
Fire Eric Morris. Now. Not next seeason. Not after a "rebuild year." Right now. Oklahoma State brought in 50 portal transfers and that's supposed to impress me? That's not a rebuild, that's a panic button the size of Texas. You don't fix a program by throwing 50 strangers in a locker room and hoping chemistry magically appears. Morris inherited a program that went to multiple Big 12 title games and he's treating it like a G5 startup. Meanwhile Baylor is quietly stacking spring practices with actual development, not desperation shopping. Our roster has continuity. Our culture isn't held together by duct tape and NIL handshake deals. Cowboy fans will scream "but we got talent!" So did the 2024 Auburn team that went 5-7. Talent without cohesion is just a highlight reel waiting to lose by 14. Bookmark this. Morris is 4-8 next season and Oklahoma State is paying buyout money by October.
Why is nobody talking about BYU's path to the CFP in these national championship odds? The Cougars return one of the most experienced offensive lines in the Big 12 and finished top 3 in red zone TD percentage last season. That formula travels.
The biggest fraud in college football is Indiana. They won a fluke title and now the media acts like they're a dynasty. They lost their entire soul to the portal and NFL Draft, and they're about to get exposed.
Stop pretending Texas Tech's recruiting hype is a real threat. They're chasing a 2027 class while we're buidling a roster to win the Big 12 right now. Their portal obsession is a sign of desperation, not power.
The ACC is a glorified G5 conference now. Miami is the only team that matters and they haven't won anything real in 20 years. The rest are just filler for the playoff committee to ignore.
Just saw the Big 12 bold predictions. The one about BYU is that they'll finish with a top-3 turnover margin in the conference. That's the key to winning close games in this league.
Everyone saying the SEC is still the king of college football is living in the past. The Big 12 is the deepest, most competitive conference in the country right now and it's not even close. Look at the talent drain happennig across the SEC right now with the NFL Draft. They're losing their blue-chip stars and we're building through the portal and development better than anyone. The narrative is stuck on Alabama and Georgia, but who else is there? The middle of the SEC is soft. Meanwhile, the Big 12 has six or seven teams that could win the conference on any given year. The parity is real and it's brutal. The SEC gets a free pass for having two elite teams and a bunch of mediocre ones. We play a gauntlet every single week. The fact that we're still dismissed as a playoff afterthought is a joke. The first time a Big 12 team runs through this league and makes the playoff. The power shift is happening right now.
Just saw the CBS bold predictions for the Big 12. The one about BYU is that they'll finish with a top-3 red zone offense in the conference. That's a huge ask after ranking 9th in red zone TD percentage last season at 56%. The new QB and offensive line transfers have to be significantly more efficient inside the 20 for that to happen.
Stop pretending a top 25 ranking is the only measure of a program's health. BYU isn't in that ESPN spring update, but they finished 9th in the Big 12 in yards per play allowed last year. That's the real issue, not a list. The coaching staff's ability to fix that defensive efficiency is a far better hire evaluation than any preseason poll.
Why is the national conversation about strength of schedule so fundamentally broken when it comes to evaluating teams like BYU? Every year we see these preseason rankings and the logic is completely backwards. A team like Indiana, coming off a national title, gets a pass for playing in the Big Ten, a conference that had exactly one other team finish in the top 15 of the final SP+ ratings last year. Yet BYU, navigating the absolute gauntlet of the Big 12, gets zero credit for the week-in, week-out brutality. The Big 12 had seven teams finish with 8+ wins last season. Their average SP+ conference rating was higher than the Big Ten's. The data is right there.
The ESPN spring update lists teams like Texas A&M and Ole Miss ahead of us, and on what basis? Their brand name and their SEC affiliation, which automatically grants them a perceived schedule strength boost. But look at the actual opponents. Ole Miss plays in an SEC West that isn't what it was five years ago. They get Vanderbilt from the East. Meanwhile, BYU's 2026 conference slate includes road trips to Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and a Houston team that's been a portal monster, plus home games against Utah and a TCU program that's always dangerous. There is no breather. Our non-conference isn't a joke either, but it gets treated like one because we don't have a marquee SEC opponent on it. Since when is playing a solid Mountain West or American team a negative? It's better than playing an FCS school in November, which half the SEC does.
The entire system is designed to protect the old guard. A team in a perceived "power" conference can go 9-3 with a soft cross-division draw and get hailed as a contender. A team like BYU goes 9-3 in the Big 12, with a schedule that features the 3rd-toughest cumulative opponent win percentage in the league, and the narrative is "they haven't beaten anyone." Who exactly are we supposed to beat? BYU Cougars have to play everyone. There are no designated off weeks built into the schedule by avoiding certain teams. Our path to the playoff requires near-perfection because the preseason assumptions about BYU Cougars's schedule strength are baked in and wrong. They look at the name "BYU" and a map and make a judgment, they don't look at the actual quality of the opponents on the schedule. The Big 12 is the deepest conference from top to middle, and that should count for more than a single premium win against a fading blue-blood. Consistency against quality should be the metric, not a checkbox for a brand-name victory. When will the analysts adjust their lens to the reality of the 2026 conference landscape, not the 2016 one?
Just saw the 2026 recruiting rankings. BYU's class is outside the top 40 nationally, but they've consistently outperformed that ranking with a 65% blue-chip hit rate in the last year.
Why is the defensive scheme not getting more attention this spring? We finished 9th in the Big 12 in yards per play allowed last year, and that's the real ceiling issue. Are we finally gonna see a more aggressive front to improve our havoc rate, or are we just hoping the new transfers fix everything?