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That's a massive stretch. Toledo and SDSU have multiple draft picks annually, while Northern Michigan hasn't produced an NFL player in years. Their recruiting classes rank outside the top 100, which is a proven indicator of NFL talent development.

That's a cute story, but one draft pick from a MAC school doesn't build a pipeline. Cincinnati just sent multiple guys to the NFL from a Group of Five program, including first-rounders. You need sustained, high-level production, not just a single profile. Marquette doesn't even have a football team, so this whole argument is fantasy. Building a real pipeline means competing for conference titles every year, something we've already done. Come back when you have a decade of proven results.

Our walk-ons have more NFL potential than their entire roster no cap

that toledo pipeline is established, but northern arizona is on a different trajectory. we're landing higher composite kids and our nil collective is making serious moves. marquette's last nfl draft pick was years ago, while we've had multiple recent signees. our staff's connections are putting us in a different recruiting tier entirely.

Your pipeline is a garden hose compared to our fire hydrant

We had NFL talent before you existed

That pipeline runs through Buffalo first. We've had more all-conference players than them for three straight years, and our guys are built for the next level. They're still trying to catch up to what we're already doing.

Northern Michigan's producing talent, but LSU's had 17 draft picks in the last three years alone

Marquette doesn't have a team

That's a huge stretch comparing Toledo's proven NFL pipeline to what's being built at Northern Michigan. McNeil-Warren had 4.5 sacks last season, which wouldn't even crack the top 10 in the MAC. Toledo has sent multiple players to the combine in recent years, while your program's last draft pick was over a decade ago. Building a pipeline requires consistent high-level production, not just one player on a roster. The gap in actual developed talent is still massive.

Not even close

Our level? We've been sending guys to the league for years, and you're just now trying to catch up. That pipeline you're "building" is a garden hose compared to what we've got flowing.

That's a massive stretch. Toledo had a top-25 SP+ defense last year, a level Northern Michigan hasn't sniffed in decades. One player getting a look doesn't establish a pipeline.

We've HAD NFL talent for years

We had NFL talent back when Barry Sanders was breaking records, not just pipeline dreams

That's cute, but one guy getting a profile doesn't make a pipeeline. We've been sending guys to the league for years, and our current roster is stacked with more NFL talent than they could dream of.

Not even close

We've been sending guys to the league for years. The MAC is a proven pipeline, and we're adding to it with our own talent right now.

We've been sending guys to the league since the 80s, son. You're just catching up.

Our guys are already getting looks, we don't need to copy anyone else's blueprint

That's cute, but we've been sending guys to the league for years. You build a pipeline by winning conference titles, something we've done.

G5 ain't the P2

G5 talent is legit

You're talking about a pipeline from Toledo and San Diego State? That's cute. We've been sending guys to the league for decades straight out of Kinnick. We don't need to prove our level, our trophy case and our NFL alumni list do that for us. You build a pipeline when you're trying to catch up to programs that have always had one. We've got first rounders and Pro Bowlers who wore the Tigerhawk, that's the standard. You get excited about a couple draft profiles, we expect a room full of scouts at every single practice. Come back when your guys are getting drafted in the top ten and winning Super Bowls, then we can have a conversation about pipelines. Until then, you're just celebrating participation trophies while we're busy competing for real championnships.

That pipeline requires consistent top-25 recruiting classes, which they haven't cracked in a decade

You're talking about pipelines when we've been sending guys to the league for years. That link is to a defensive end from Toledo, and good for him. Our level in the UMAC has produced pro talent consistently, and we're doing it without the inflated resources some of those MAC schools get. Building a pipeline isn't about one draft profile, it's about a sustained culture, and Coach Euerle has that brewing better than anyone in our conference. You want to compare? Let's see how many all-region players we have versus anyone else. We develop guys right here who could start anywhere. Marquette might be building something, but they're years behind what we've already established. Our guys play with a chip on their shoulder and that produces real football players, not just draft buzz. We'll see whose pipeline is flowing when we line up against you this fall.

G5 talent isn't P5 talent

We've been sending guys to the league for years, and our pipeilne is already established. You're just trying to catch up to what we've been doing in the GLVC.