The ACC's top heavy but Miami's red zone efficiency is legit, they just need more teams to step up lmao

We don't need the ACC to be stacked for us to dominate, we just need to beat whoever is in front of us. Besides, those preseason lists are always wrong and Clemson will be back in the top 25 by October. Our focus is on winning the conference, not what some writer thinks about our league's depth.

Our defense is stacked and we're bringing back the whole O-line, that's how we'll compete nationally

You know, I actually think the ACC gets a little too much heat sometimes. Miami being the only team in that early list is a talking pont, but those lists are just for clicks in the offseason. We see it every year in the Big Ten, where the preseason hype doesn't always match the November reality. Your point about red zone efficiency is solid, and Miami should be good, but the ACC always has a couple teams that surprise everyone. Florida State just won the conference and was in the playoff, and Clemson has too much talent to stay down for long. I'm more worried about our own schedule than what the ACC is doing, honestly. The bottom of their league might be shaky, but the top can play with anyone. We'll see how it all shakes out, but I wouldn't sleep on that conference just because of some May ranking. They'll have someone else step up, they always do.

FSU just won the conference

Miami's red zone numbers are nice, but their 3-5 conference record last year is the real stat. The ACC's strength is in teams like Wake Forest, who finished with a better ACC win percentage than the Hurricanes.

The ACC just won a national title and Miami hasn't been relevant in 20 years. Your math is bad.

Conference realignment killed real depth

Your...

Bowie State led the CIAA in scoring offense at 35.2 PPG, proving a conference's strength isn't defined by one preseason list.

We own the ACC

the acc is the most underrated league in the country and miami is the most overrated team in it

ACC disrespect is tradition lol

Typical Miami fan forgetting they haven't been relevant since the Big East days. You talk about your red zone rate, but I remember when your program was on probation. The ACC's problem is teams like yours chasing flash instead of building a culture. We had more consistency under George Welsh than Miami has had in twenty years. Real depth left this league when Maryland and the old rivalries died. Your one preseason ranking doesn't impress anyone who watched you strggle against us for decades.

We won the conference last year

ACC still owns the playoff wins

The ACC just won a natty, so the "top conference" debate is settled. Miami being ranked is great, but our Cardinals are building something real that the polls will have to notice soon. Depth is about who finishes the season, NOT some preseason list.

First off, who cares about some random way-too-early list that came out in February? Those things are meaningless. The ACC has proven its depth year after year, and last season showed that with multiple teams beating ranked opponents from other power conferences. Miami being the only one on that list right now just means the so-called experts are sleeping on teams like. Our Hoosiers know all about ACC strength from our crossover games, and it's never an easy win. Louisville and Clemson had down years, sure, but to write off entire programs because of one offseason ranking is laughable. Clemson's defense will be back, and Louisville always finds playmakers. The ACC sent a team to the playoff again last year, which is more than some other leagues can say. That red zone stat for Miami is nice, but it doesn't define a whole conference. The league is stacked with coaches who know how to develop talent and win big games. We'll see how "shallow" the ACC is when they're pulling upsets all September. The Big Ten resects that league, and anyone who doesn't is just ignoring the facts.

Chapman's building through the portal, not preseason lists

Miami hasn't been relevant since the Orange Bowl was still in the Orange Bowl, kid

We just won the Big Ten and you're worried ABOUT the ACC's depth?

ACC is stacked. Miami is just the tip.

Our conference just sent two teams to the New Year's Six and won the most non-conference games of any Power league last year. Miami getting that early love is great, but it ignores Florida State's reload and the fact that Clemson is always a threat. That red zone stat is nice for them, but we held teams to under 20 points per game in conference play. The ACC's depth is proven on the field, not in some offseason list.

your red zone stats are meaningless when you choke against every ranked opponent. typical miami.

Our schedule is tougher than theirs

The ACC had 11 teams finish with winning records last season, more than the Big 12 and Pac-12

That 72% red zone rate is solid, but Vanderbilt's defense held opponents to a 48% red zone TD rate, which was top 20 NATIONALLY

Miami? We beat better Miami teams in the 80s.

The ACC had 11 teams finish with winning records last season, more than any other conference. Miami's offensive production is impressive, but Clemson's defense still finished top 15 in yards per play allowed. Conference strength is about more than one preseason list.

The ACC just won a national championship last year, SO this take is already dead on arrival. Florida State was a playoff team, Clemson is a perennial power having a down year, and Louisville won 10 games. Miami being the only team in a meaningless May poll means nothing. The league's depth with NC State, Virginia Tech, and SMU is better than the Big 12's. Your red zone stat is cute, but it didn't get you to Charlotte. The ACC consistently competes at the highest level, and one preseason list doesn't change that reality.

The ACC just won a national title. Your conference hasn't. End of discussion.

Miami's red zone efficiency is impressive, but that's a single-team stat. The ACC's problem is Clemson's drop-off, as their 8-4 record and 4.9 yards per play on offense last year shows they weren't a top-25 team. Florida State's collapse after Jordan Travis got hurt skewed the perception. The league still had six teams with 9+ wins, which is better depth than people give credit for.

This Miami fan must have forgotten the 80s when the ACC was a real conference. We had Florida State and Miami trading blows every year, not this watered-down version. Clemson will be back, they always are, and Louisville just won 10 games. Remember when conferences had actual rivalries that mattered every single Saturday? That's what built football, not these early season beauty pageant rankings.